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Mon 24 May 2010 13:15 raven From: netherlands(holland) amsterdam
hello, I very much want to get a copy of "the turks" by miclosh erdy,mentioned in the hunnic anabasis,on this site.the main reason is the map of his reproduced here,"tracing of nomadic burials from east to west";I need the names of the places portrayed by the numbers,around china;but no places are listed on this site(turkic world),map,to go with the #s.If anyone could sell me a book,or tell me the names of places that go with the map #s.please contact me at"" .Cheers all .RAVEN

Mon 17 May 2010 11:45 Ilyas Sharipjan From: Qazaqstan
I've made an interesting observation while studying ancient history of India (according to Mahabharatha and Ramayana). It appears that "mleccha" (barbarians) of the west (Afghanistan, Pamir, Central Asia, etc.) bear turkic names, as well as some non-"mleccha" states. Term "aryan" here is used to denote original IE- speaking Indian nations who followed Dharma, unlike "mleccha" of the west. Kamboja - unknown name, possibly turkic horsemen who lived in northern Pakistan area before Yueji/Tocharian/White Hun invasion. There are several regions of Kamboja - one K. live in the valley of Hindus; one in Himalayas; one in Pamir (Parama Kamboja) Tushara - Tokhar/Tuxar (modern "Uyghurs"); one live in Himalayas, another live in Chorasmia. Parada - ? (probably Pards/Parni/East Parthians), Badakhshan. Aswaka - Assacenoi or Assakeon. As+Saka tribe union, Afghanistan. Yavana - probably greeks (Ionians), however there is proof of their nativity. Pahlava - West Parthians. Kipchak-speaking Turkic folk. Probably ancestors of modern Karakalpaks. Bahlika - Balkhians. Their culture was reported to be different from indian aryans. One live in Afghanistan, another in Punjab. Gandhara - Gandarii/Kangars. Legendary buddhist kingdom from Pushto lands of Pakistan. Hara Huna - ? maybe Black Hunns. Southern Uzbekistan/Tajikistan area. Saka - Qazaq/Kazak/Sacae/Scythians. Bactria. Madra - ? (Madjars?). Reported having familiar culture with Bahlika. One lived in Pakistan, another lived on Qazaq-Uzbek border (odd). --- It is not clear where the border between invaders from the west (mleccha) and natives (aryans) was. But I noted that Saraswati fits this border perfectly. However if we take into consideration the presence of Kuru kingdom in the center of India and presence of Kuru tribe in modern Kyrgyzstan area, it only adds more confusion. I hope it helps in your research! Keep this great site working! Thank you very much!
Dear Ilyas, thank you for a ton of interesting observations, and kind words. Norm

Thu 4 Mar 2010 12:18 Tom Pucnhniak From: Canada Montrea
Is there any way to find out where you got the map "World According to Strabo 25 BCE”, in your Late Antiquity section? I would like to use it in a book about Cleopatra but need to know who owns it and get a high resolution version for the book. THanks

Thu 4 Mar 2010 12:18 Tuncay From: Germany Dinslaken
Hi. Congratulations to this site. Could you tell me the book where i can find the sentence "R. Stiehlel writes, it is quite obvious that language of old Avesta is closely tied to ancient Altaic languages." You havent gaved the source. I need that information for my own searchings. Thank you.

Sun 7 Feb 2010 04:50 Turdalieva From: Kyrgyzstan Bishkek
dear the organizers of the website. Thank you so much for your endless effort to make our heritage visible and sufficient. I am creating an atnhology of descriptions and accounts of travelers on History of Kyrgyzstan in Russian. It will cover 5 BC to early 20th century. For this I am going to search several Russian-language web-resources on Central Asia, in particular Kyrgyzstan. We need such anthology for several teaching courses such as History of Kyrgyzstan, History of Central Asia, Politics of Central Asia, Anthropology of Kinship. I am going prepare it in Russian because I would like also to cover the learning interest of those students wo don't have much access to the Internet and who can read it in Russian. Would you be so kind as to permit me to use some mterials in the anthology. I will include the reference to your site. Thank you in advance. Sincerely, Cholpon Turdalieva As.Professor American University of Central Asia

Sun 3 Jan 2010 13:45 Yanina From: USA New York
"Semantics: The first observation is that the dictionary confirms the old adage: Scratch a Russian, and underneath is a Tatar (i.e. a Tьrk). The scope of "Tьrkisms" in Russian is a language in itself; with a 1,412-word root vocabulary you can write a book, a poem, or an article on any subject in the Middle Age life. Moreover, without the Tьrkic words, no book, poem, or an article can be written in Russian on any subject." "Moreover, without the Tьrkic words, no book, poem, or an article can be written in Russian on any subject" yea, you wish your 1ooo something words were so important. of course you CAN write anything without using Turkic words. This was just so stupid to say. Every Turkic word like "obezyana" for instance has a synonim which will be not a Turkic word, for instance "primat." etc, think for your selg. I just could not stop laughing when i read your claim. Don't be stupid, remove it from you site.
Dear Yanina, thank you for a nice citation. What we see here is, first, a thick layer of Bulgarian, Kipchak, Oguz, etc. admixture that was a base for the Rus language and culture, officially attributed in the last 300 years to the petty survivors of the 4,000 Mongolo-Tatars in Batu's disposal. Is not that a deliberately fake history? Secondly, the brave people like Shipova must be a pride of the country, she must be admired and remembered, and serve as a model of a real scientist of the country. Thirdly, you can remove "Obez'yana" and "Vorota" and "telega" and "Soyuz" form the language, but what are you going to do with that stupid Pushkin? Unfortunately, he used all these kind of words of his language. You revise Pushkin, Derjavin, Chernyshevsky, Turgenev, Tolstoy, Khruschev, Brejnev, Eltsyn, Putin, Medvedev, and we will return to the subject. Next time, try to write a sentense without those Turkic words you were using in Russian reverse translation. Thanks, Norm

Sun 3 Jan 2010 13:44 Mustafa From: Turkey Istanbul
Dear Norm, It's a perfect site but when talking about "Turkic history" we must have as an alternative the most common Turkic dialect which is the "Turkish" language as well. Best wishes for 2010 !!!
Dear Mustafa, the subject is so huge that we can't fit it on a thousand sites. Concentration on less known and more controversial subjects that keep being mistreated by silencing facts and glossing over inconsistencies fills a major void. The Turkish, Khazar, Kaganates histories are well known and have huge literature and following. The Kangar, Kimek, Avar, Usun, even the Hun history are still forced to float in a sea of mud. Regards, Norm

Wed 9 Sep 2009 10:39 From:
i love your site turkic world .org you should write in turkish this way those ignorate turks in turkey can learn about themselves,i learn alot about myself and my ethnic backaround I'm tatar thank you very much creating a web site like this one
Dear Anonymous, Thank you for the good words. Mind you, Turkey was a good mother for centuries, sheltering Ladino Jews, Tatars, Nogais, Nakhs, Bosnyaks, Bulgars, Serbs, Bashkirs, Armenians, and many other refugees in time of need. Ignorant people are not generous, by definition. The problem was that Turkic history was written much by politicians and nationalists. We can now ignore them, and stay with facts and science. Regards, Norm

Sun 24 May 2009 14:06 тaйнa From: Россия Самара
Занятно написано, но как говорится, для полноты информации нужно минимум хотя бы три источника :)
If you became interested and want to keep exploring - good for you// Если Вы заинтересовались и хотите искать полную информацию - замечательно

Sun 5 Apr 2009 20:14 myukaht From: Россия Саратов
Действительно, на самом деле все очень просто :)

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